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1 point by akkartik 4549 days ago | link | parent

I certainly didn't mean to make it personal. I didn't even think I was talking about you.

I vaguely sense that we're using very different meanings for words like "runnable", "less work", "program", "project" and "right". But now I'm afraid to pick at this further.

I'm not claiming there should be no discussion without code, or that people must have working code when making a proposal, or anything nearly that strong. In this case from the certainty and polish of the presentation I assumed he knows what he wants. And he's referred to code so we know it's not a pure spec. So the bottleneck seems to lie in me understanding his proposal. And I was suggesting that sharing whatever code he has might help me over that hump. Showing code can only ever help, never hurt.



2 points by rocketnia 4549 days ago | link

"I certainly didn't mean to make it personal. I didn't even think I was talking about you. [...] now I'm afraid to pick at this further."

Oh, sorry. I'm personally invested in this topic, but I'm not offended. But come to think of it, my post was a few claims fluffed up with personal foibles in place of other justification, and thanks for not being eager to refute the acceptableness of my foibles. :-p

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"In this case..."

I don't have much of an opinion in this particular case. I was spurred on by the "common complaint" that people don't share their code in progress, and I'm interested in what kind of overall strategy we should pursue in response.

- Social networks for code sharing (e.g. package managers, HTTP, GitHub)?

- Collaborative development of large-scale online worlds (e.g. Wikipedia)?

- Socially encouraging or discouraging people to program depending on their personality?

- Investigating what kinds of programming problems are so mathematically exotic that meaningful code is exactly the thing that's hardest to develop?

- Different laws and licenses related to sharing code?

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"And he's referred to code so we know it's not a pure spec."

I don't remember that part. I did skip a few boring parts in the video. ^_^;;

Hmm, maybe I even consider runnable code to be relatively boring and forgettable. XD; Probably depends on whether it's a product I'm eager to use right away. ^_^

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1 point by akkartik 4549 days ago | link

Socially encouraging or discouraging people to program depending on their personality?

Yeah, my hypothesis is that it's a psychological thing. Putting something out there is scary.

But this guy is putting out stuff, just not code. So my theory breaks down there :/ Never mind, let me just invite him over: http://brianwill.net/blog/2012/02/07/animvs-lisp-for-people-...

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